|Server and Forum Rules|
|Section I - Rules
Section II - Additional Steam-IDs
We recognize that some people may play from the same location as other people. Adults may allow their children to play; brothers/sisters may both have TFC/FF/TF2, etc. This can cause problems if one person is a problem on the server. Know that when an account is banned all subsequent accounts associated with that account will also be banned. Be careful where you play and who you play with. If you are a parent, make sure your child knows the rules on our server before playing. You are responsible for the actions of your children on the server. You are responsible for the actions of those playing from your IP, friend, family, or foe. Again, ANY Steam-IDs associated with a banned account will also be banned. It does not matter if you are two different people. We will not go into investigations for these types of bans.
* Definition: Spawn Camping
|Server Administration Questions, Ban Information, etc.|
|How do I join The Old Timers Clan?|
You have probably been sent here because you asked to join the [o-t]. The Old Timers Clan is an invite only clan. There is no application process and asking how to join is considered bad form. The characteristics we look for in a new member are:
The clan takes time to know an individual and make sure they are a good fit. We are not a fast growing clan. In 2005 only five people were asked to join the clan, nine in 2006, and five in 2007. The average time a person had spent on our servers prior to being asked to join in 2007 was one full calendar year. If you feel entitled to membership to [o-t] you should look elsewhere for a clan.
Publicly announcing you want to join the [o-t] is not a good idea. Hinting that you want to join [o-t] is not a good idea. Having friends say you should be in the [o-t] is not a good idea. Asking members constantly about membership is not a good idea and will probably result in you never entering the clan. No one whom has ever made it clear they feel entitled to join has ever been asked to join. Asking about it or feeling slighted by the clan gives the appearance of feeling entitled. Everything you need to know is on this page.
Lying about your age to try and join the [o-t] will probably get you banned from the servers and the forums.
So, play on the servers on a regular basis, use your microphone, obey the server rules, contribute to the forums and you'll most likely be noticed and admired. Play on the servers for fun, not membership.
|What are the TF2 Trading Guidelines for the [o-t] environment?|
Our servers are primarily for playing, not for trading. If you want to trade please find another server and use the steam-friends list to contact individuals. They will decide to either ignore you and keep playing or join you in your other server and free up a slot for people looking to play.
|Old Timers Clan Language Rules|
|Over the years many people have asked questions about our language rules, this section is an attempt to consolidate the answers to those questions. After reading through this section please feel free to ask for clarification on any item you do not understand.|
|What are the Signature and Avatar restrictions in the [o-t] Forums for registered users?|
|How do we challenge [o-t] to a Scrimmage?|
The Old Timers clan isn't a competative gaming clan. We aren't involved in any leagues as a group, although a few members have scrimmaged as part of the 30+ clan. We will occasionally play in friendly scrimmages for fun with neighboring clans (and 99% of the time get our asses handed to us). We have no strategies, very poor coordination, and lack response time. :) If you do want a scrimmage you'll need to register in our forums and post in the Player to Clan Communication section. In general it will depend on the interest of the clan and how many members sign up. Not many are interested in a competative match.
|TM (Trouble Maker Tags), also known as Player Halos, Gags and Mutes|
|If a person is a problem in the server and they are on their last chance before being banned we'll TM Tag them. This means they have a halo above their head and are a slightly brighter color then their team mates.
If they are gagged or muted it is because the player doesn't know how to use the mic/text without our rules.
How do I get my tag/gag/mute removed?
You can't. Most tags/gags/mutes are permanent. Like bans they are usually only reviewed once per year. Should you be told your tag/gag/mute will be reviewed in X days you have a chance. We have software to remind us, trying to remind us will get your gag/tag/mute extended.Can I jeapordize my chances of having it removed?
Absolutely. Asking about your tag/gag/mute is considered bad form. Complaining about your tag/gag/mute, especially publicly in the server is the surest way to see it isn't removed and possibly get banned. Telling people you believe the tag/gag/mute to be unfounded will almost surely get it made perm. You're tagged because we're ready to get rid of you, show us that feeling is unfounded and it will be removed. Show us you're a complainer and we'll remove you.You'll ban someone with a tag for complaining or asking about it too much?
In a heartbeat. Ask Otto.Has anyone ever had their tag removed?
Yes, at one point Sleepyguy had a TM Tag. He NEVER asked about it. He fit in so well with the community and didn't complain about it or ask about it that it was removed shortly after it was given. Asking once will generally add some time to a TM Tag, asking several people will add months, asking clan members after being told not to will insure it is never removed or get you banned.
|What are the player title rankings of in your forums?|
|Veteran Community Member - A player that has played in our server on 365 separate days.
Long Term Regular Player - A player that has played in our server on 180 separate days and 40 hours in the last 60 days.
Long Term Player - A player that has played in our server on 180 separate days.
Regular Player - A player with less then 180 days but 40 hours in the last 60 days.
Player - A player with over 10 days in the server.
New Player - A player with less then 10 days in the server.
|Map Voting System|
The [o-t] clan uses a category voting system to choose maps. The first vote will ask the user what type of map they want to play. This is different from game to game. In Fortress Forever, the following Game Types are available:Capture the Flag - Both teams attempt to steal the others flag and return it to their base.During either a regular "nextmap" vote or a "rockthevote" the game-type menu will appear. In Fortress-Forever you will need to hit ESC to see this menu:
|Old Timers Clan Map Information|
|How do reserved slots work on the [o-t] server?|
Reserved slots is a method of insuring that clan members and donating players may get into the server when they want. We do not have as aggressive a policy as most other servers. Each server has 2 reserved slots. This example will outline a 24 slot TF2 server for clarity purposes. Here is how our reserved slots system works:
The server will accept up to 22 players before it begins rejecting people for reserved slots. These players may be clan members or non-clan members. When the server reaches a capacity of 22 players any non-clan member / non-donating player trying to connect will receive the "reserved slot" rejection message. If a clan member or donating player enters the server they will take up one of the two reserved slots. No player will be kicked from the server to re-open another slot. It is possible that two clan members or donating players could enter the server after there are already 22 players in the machine and have the server completely filled with 24 slots taken. A few examples:
... you get the picture.
Section II: Map Changes
If the server has over 22 players in it and the map changes the server will re-evaluate players as they reconnect. This is a first-come first serve basis. So, let's assume for a moment that the server has:
Section III: I'm getting the "server is full" message
The "server is full" message is a valve message meaning the server already has as many players as possible. It is not a part of the reserved slot system. You may see the server have 21/22 players and get this message because someone else is also trying to connect as the same time as you. Here's how that might look:Section IV: Does the TV thing take up a reserved slot?
Nope, doesn't affect it at all.Section V: Other Things to Take Note
Clan members and donating players take up regular slots prior to taking up reserved slots. This ensures that the maximum number of clan members and donating players can get into the server freely.
|TF2 In Game Server Information|
|I believe a player is cheating!!!|
|Please remember that a person being good, or having a high score doesn't necessarily mean that they are cheating. There are fairly easy ways to see if someone is cheating. If you are speculating them and their view "snaps" to another player to kill them that's a very clear sign of aim-bot. If you aren't sure if someone is cheating you need to record a demo. We will not take action on a player without a demo, just as we wouldn't kick you for cheating without seeing the behavior directly.
If you do not know how to record a demo, see, "How do Record a Demo" in the FAQ.
AFTER you have recorded a demo of the cheating behavior, let a clan member know in the forums through the Player to Clan communication section. We'll give you a username and password to FTP the demo to us.
We will review the demo and let you know if we see anything that looks suspicious. Please make sure you are absolutely SURE that someone is cheating. This means you're watching the player and they are doing things that you just don't think are possible, not just that they seem to be very good. Reviewing demo's isn't something we like to do all the time, so we really want people to be sure.